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20080323 report
Longitude & latitude of JCMT changed - pointing recovered ?
E-mail from Patrick Wallace on 18 March recommended a change to
the longitude and latitude of the telescope:
I've just updated obs.f in the repository with the JCMT telescope
position that is actually used by the JCMT TCS.
* James Clerk Maxwell 15 metre mm telescope, Mauna Kea JCMT
-* (IfA website, Richard Wainscoat, height from I.Coulson)
+* (as used by the JCMT telescope control system; R Kackley)
570 CONTINUE
NAME='JCMT 15 metre'
- W=WEST(155,28,37.20)
- P=NORTH(19,49,22.11)
+ W=WEST(155,28,47.00)
+ P=NORTH(19,49,33.00)
H=4111D0
If you go to http://www.vlba.nrao.edu/astro/obstatus/current/node5.html
you will see that NRAO think the WGS (=ITRS) coordinates of the Mauna Kea
VLBA antenna are
+19 48 04.97 -155 27 19.81 VLBA antenna, NRAO
The resolution, 10 mas, corresponds to about 31 cm. Given the extremely
demanding application, I think these coordinates can be trusted down to
the last digit, and in fact are probably known to rather better than that.
If you then measure the position of the antenna using Google Earth
(while trying to allow for the slanted viewpoint) you will get something
like
+19 48 05.00 -155 27 20.80 VLBA antenna, Google Earth
This provides a calibration of Google Earth in that region, suggesting
corrections of S 0.03 and E 0.99 arcsec need to be added.
If you then use Google Earth to measure the JCMT coordinates, you should
get roughly
+19 49 22.34 -155 28 38.44 JCMT, Google Earth
Applying the above corrections gives
+19 49 22.31 -155 28 37.45 JCMT, Google Earth + corrections
This position compares well with the Richard Wainscoat figures used in
the existing sla_OBS code...
+19 49 22.11 -155 28 37.20 JCMT, IfA
But the JCMT TCS figures that you quote...
+19 49 33.00 -155 28 47.00
...are clearly wrong: perhaps a different reference spheroid.
Per Friberg commented upon this last thought:
Pat's last line hints at an often forgotten issue - there are many
different coordinate systems. The JCMT antenna position likely refers to
something like the Old Hawaiian Reference System and might very well be
precise in that system.
and later added
I do not doubt GPS will be the preferred system in the future, I just
wanted to point out that the old number likely not was an error. I assume
they just referred to another reference system. Good surveying even 150
years ago was amazingly accurate. There is no reason to think there was an
error.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geodetic_system
Tim Jenness's subsequent inquiry re the values used in the eSMA work,
brough this response from Remo Tilanus:
This is what we got from the GPS measurements on the JCMT dish. Note that
the gps receiver was sitting on the edge of the JCMT dish and that between
measurement 1 and 3 the telescope was rotated by 180 deg. I.e. the position
of the vertical axis should be the average of the two measurements.
JCM1 LAT 07APR11 19.822765272 +- 0.0402 0.761633 -0.925637
JCM1 LON 07APR11 -155.477030200 +- 0.0593 -0.825422
JCM1 RAD 07APR11 4124.8212 +- 0.1977
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JCM3 LAT 07APR11 19.822910680 +- 0.0211 0.446184 0.389126
JCM3 LON 07APR11 -155.477026019 +- 0.0377 0.134328
JCM3 RAD 07APR11 4124.6859 +- 0.0805
Mean lon/lat:
lon0 = (lon1+lon3)/2 = -155.4770281095
lat0 = (lat1+lat3)/2 = 19.8228379760
These have an accuracy of 2-8 centimeters. The height came out a bit more
uncertain with an accuracy of 10-20cm.
heigth: (h1+h3)/2 = 4124.75355
Iain Coulson contributed:
The largest parts of the changes would fall into the TPOINT terms
AN & AW (currently +9.00" and -15.38"). As a first approximation,
adoption of the new values would amount to a relocation of the
telescope by 11"S and 10"E, so AN and AW would become approx +20.00" and
-5.38".
- - and Patrick Wallace agreed
. . . more or less.
Using the erroneous position, it looked to the TCS as though the telescope
was tilted S and E. So for nominally zero true tilts we would expect the
model to claim negative AN and negative AW. There is the separate effect
that the longitude was wrong for the HA calculation, and this has an
effect on IA in addition to the AW component (and provides yet another
opportunity to get a sign wrong).
I think we need to add to the existing terms the following:
IA +3.29
AN +10.78
AW +9.13
So the new values (expressed to excessive precision) will be:
IA current value plus 3.29
AN +19.78
AW -6.25
The disagreement in the AW change might be a cos(phi) factor. The
longitude difference is more than the EW tilt change except at the
equator.
I would expect AN and AW to reflect the deflection of the vertical by the
pull from Mauna Loa, so that the azimuth axis is tilted away from the
latter. As a guide to how much, the values for Keck 1 are about +20, -13
respectively. The revised JCMT figures imply a compass bearing of 198,
which can't be far off.
By the way, of the various "true" positions, I'd definitely use your own
GPS determination.
The JCMT coordinates and pointing model parameters were therefore
adjusted (to the 'GPS" values above) at about 9pm HST 22 March 2008:
param TELESCOPE.LONG DBR_DOUBLE -2.713633073 to -2.713586047
param TELESCOPE.LAT DBR_DOUBLE 0.346026069 to 0.345973806
param TELESCOPE.HT DBR_DOUBLE 4111.0 to 4120.0
param POINTING.IA DBR_DOUBLE -255.20 to -251.91
param POINTING.AW DBR_DOUBLE -15.38 to -6.25
param POINTING.AN DBR_DOUBLE +9.00 to +19.78
Several RxA pointing data were subsequently obtained with the new model.
No huge problems were revealed so observing was allowed to continue as
normal and pointing data were collected serendipitously thereafter.
The first 16 data in the new regime are plotted below:
Mean collimation offsets (CA,IE) were (-5.7",-0.2"), and
rms scatters in (dS,dZ) were (4.0",3.4").
There are many strong systematics, so a full, 7-parameter optimization
was performed:
original new
coeff value change value sigma
1 IA -251.9100 -11.701 -263.61 10.230
2 IE -59.2916 +7.012 -52.28 2.102
3 NPAE +54.4341 -0.877 +53.56 13.322
4 CA -87.9949 +2.996 -85.00 15.482
5 AN +19.7800 -2.017 +17.76 0.866
6 AW -6.2500 +1.349 -4.90 0.978
7 TF -19.3 +9.247 -10.05 2.969
On the basis of the adjusted model the data show distributions of
residuals as follows:
predicting future rms scatters of (2.2",1.7").
The new model was installed at ~09:00 HST 23 March 2008,
although the subsequent five nights were mostly too good for much further use of RxA.
Five RxA pointing data were logged on UT20080328, with
(CA+dS,IE+dZ) = (+2.3"+2.2",-2.1"+2.0").
The combined 58 HARP pointing data obtained in those 5 nights are shown below:
They have mean collimations of (CA,IE)=(+16.9",+31.8") -- compared with the
nominal (+15",+35") (see
/jac_sw/itsroot/src/harpb/XML/instrument_harpb.ent ) -- and
rms scatters of (2.2",3.3"). This seems no better or worse than
previous HARP data, uncorrected, as they aren't, for the K-mirror
misalignments.
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